Live Match Discussion 2024/25

[Deutsch Wolf]

Sa says "Thank You " to Onana...

I suspect you are in the same boat as me. I fucking HATE quirky keepers. Oh isn't he random, isn't it amusing, isn't it worth it when he inexplicably pulls out a game where he's unbeatable, that makes up for all the abysmal nonsense, doesn't it? Got to be mad to be a keeper, eh?

No. No it does not. No you do not. I want my keepers to be M&S slacks, a ham and mustard sandwich, a can of San Pellegrino, a ruthlessly efficient U-Bahn. I want him there to do a quality job with no fuss, no frills, no spectacle. And then I haven't got to think about it.

The likes of Sa and Onana give me a raging headache.

 

[Squeak]

I suspect you are in the same boat as me. I fucking HATE quirky keepers. Oh isn't he random, isn't it amusing, isn't it worth it when he inexplicably pulls out a game where he's unbeatable, that makes up for all the abysmal nonsense, doesn't it? Got to be mad to be a keeper, eh?

No. No it does not. No you do not. I want my keepers to be M&S slacks, a ham and mustard sandwich, a can of San Pellegrino, a ruthlessly efficient U-Bahn. I want him there to do a quality job with no fuss, no frills, no spectacle. And then I haven't got to think about it.

The likes of Sa and Onana give me a raging headache.

Man City seem to have a spare keeper who can't get a game... could do a job.

 

[Squeak]

Windy innit.

Must have been the big bad wolf....

 

[Banjo]

I know we all know it, but the decline caused by Jeff sacking Nuno could so easily have been avoided. Seeing Nuno do for Forest what we all know he's capable of is just so demoralising.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Anyone with any ounce of humility would properly take it on board. I'm sure we've all made a judgement call in the past, seen how it's gone horribly wrong and thought "crikey, I won't do that again".

Not Jeff though.

 

[Lupo]

I know we all know it, but the decline caused by Jeff sacking Nuno could so easily have been avoided. Seeing Nuno do for Forest what we all know he's capable of is just so demoralising.

Especially now we're 2nd from bottom, leakiest defence and managed by Gary O’Neil. Makes me sick

 

[Del Woppio]

Makes you fucking sick. Like we're not just off the pace, we've got flat tyres and we're running out of petrol.

You know how far back we'd have to go in order to accumulate 26 Premier League points? Early February. They're not clubs that are spending massive money. We've sacked one of their managers, we'd have turned down Emery before he took Villa. We'd have written off Frank as a jammy little cunt. We'd have told Silva to do one and the others I doubt Hobbs had even fuckin heard of until they got their present jobs.

It's bad enough we take Bournemouth's fucking cast off, but then we get suckered into his MNF theatre and a little fucking purple patch and next thing you know there's a bunch of clubs that, 3 years ago, would've been DELIGHTED to finish above Wolves and we're not even in the same fucking game as them. Fucking embarrassing decline. Outrageous

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Not quite true on Marco Silva, we offered him the job before we sacked Crazy Walt. His if he wanted it and he could spend whatever he wanted (if you look through this nice J Mendes catalogue above all else). He said no.

 

[Del Woppio]

I thought about that after I stopped shaking (though I may have been conflating the fact that I didn't want him) but the drama in me got in the way in the time. Either way, minor exception, we've been an embarrassment for four years, some of us have see it real time, but when you see the table like that it's still a proper kick in the dick

 

[jd1981]

It’s pretty obvious Nuno would’ve stabilised things post Covid.
We wouldn’t have ended up with the mess post Lage and wouldn’t have ended up with the Lop debacle.
You can trace all of our current problems back to that decision.
Nevertheless there were rumblings of discontent on social media towards Nuno and some actively celebrated the decision, fucking idiots.
It still angers me you sack Nuno on the proviso that he’s replaced by better instead they replaced him with a bloke with a CV you could write on a napkin.

 

[Lupo]

Nevertheless there were rumblings of discontent on social media towards Nuno and some actively celebrated the decision, fucking idiots.

Probably the same ones in the ever dwindling cult that thinks O'Neil can do no wrong and none of this is his fault

 

[jd1981]

Probably the same ones in the ever dwindling cult that thinks O'Neil can do no wrong and none of this is his fault

Yep the ones who held onto the thought Bruno Lage was hard done by and a decent coach.
Our fans are just odd at sometimes they oust those that bring success and try to back those that are useless and toxic.

 

[Del Woppio]

It’s pretty obvious Nuno would’ve stabilised things post Covid.
We wouldn’t have ended up with the mess post Lage and wouldn’t have ended up with the Lop debacle.
You can trace all of our current problems back to that decision.
Nevertheless there were rumblings of discontent on social media towards Nuno and some actively celebrated the decision, fucking idiots.
It still angers me you sack Nuno on the proviso that he’s replaced by better instead they replaced him with a bloke with a CV you could write on a napkin

I dunno. I think the free pass/holiday in Saudi pretty much fixed him tbh. Post Spurs he could've got a Forest job, but the Nuno we see now and the Nuno we saw the. Are different people. Even the guy we saw when he won manager of the month still didn't look like peak Nuno.

I was in the group of fans that thought it was the right the call. We've obviously gone backwards, but I'd still take some convincing that if we'd have given him an unbreakable contract in 2020 that we'd have still got near to those days. Obviously that's largely because of Shi and Hobbs, but I think Nuno was cooked here.

 

[Derby Wolf]

Colleague is a Forest fan and had an EXTREMELY good day!!

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Again it's two different things. I wouldn't have agreed but you can make the point that we'd gone stale by 2021, we were very one note, even in zero stakes games Nuno was showing little aptitude to switch things up. You've got a base there and maybe you need another man to take it on another step.

However I guarantee you that if you asked 1,000 random Wolves fans to name a realistic shortlist of 5 successors in May 2021, Bruno Lage would not have got more than 1% of the votes. Lo and behold he was fucking diabolical and here we are.

 

[jd1981]

I dunno. I think the free pass/holiday in Saudi pretty much fixed him tbh. Post Spurs he could've got a Forest job, but the Nuno we see now and the Nuno we saw the. Are different people. Even the guy we saw when he won manager of the month still didn't look like peak Nuno.

I was in the group of fans that thought it was the right the call. We've obviously gone backwards, but I'd still take some convincing that if we'd have given him an unbreakable contract in 2020 that we'd have still got near to those days. Obviously that's largely because of Shi and Hobbs, but I think Nuno was cooked here.

When I say stabilising things I mean mid table, even at his absolute worst he got us to 13th. The raising of Covid restrictions would’ve helped him to. Reality is I think the post season would’ve re-charged his batteries.

 

[Del Woppio]

Oh aye, I'm not above admitting that I was likely a little impatient or impulsive (there are probably other words that I can't place right now), and if you gave me an undo I'd take it. But at the same I think it stull could and should have been done a lot better

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Marco Rose
Ruben Amorim
Paulo Fonseca

They were three I wanted in the immediate* aftermath. And that's the calibre we should have been after, and could have got.


*As in like three days as it became very quickly apparent that Trigger was a done deal

 

[The Bear]

The problem for me was we were the worst team to watch in the league and couldn't score for shit. We barely ever got players in the box or even created chances. I knew plenty of other fans who'd take the piss out of how shit we looked.

Maybe if we'd managed to find a half decent striker post Jimenez injury we'd have been alright as Nuno is now with Chris Wood. That's a big if though.

 

[Alan]

COVID seemed to take a massive toll on Nuno’s mental health; there were definitely red flags in his final season and I wasn’t really upset we tried to move on. Obviously, with hindsight, it meant there was no more buffer between the squad and Shi’s, er, interpretation of reality.

I’m beyond pleased Nuno is doing so well. Wish it was here rather than Forest, but do I think we’d be in 5th right now had the rumors of his return prior to hiring Lop been true and we’d actually brought him back? No, probably not. Impossible to say.

Would we be less diabolical at just about every phase of play? Yes, without a shadow of a doubt in my mind.