Live Match Discussion 2023/24

[Tredman]

No need for Var with that pen

 

[leedswolf]

It's not really contrary is it?

The vast majority of fans want the right decisions as TT says.

I find it incredibly weird that people who get so exercised about the level of refereeing say they are happy for the mistakes to happen. It doesn't make sense on any level.

It's the time consuming forensic analysis utilised to still reach an incorrect decision that is more galling than an assistant referee getting a tight offside decision wrong. Automated VAR for offside is the way forward, and any video assistance is down to find compelling evidence to overturn the onfield referee's original call.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I saw the Southampton vs Plymouth highlights from Friday yesterday - Plymouth had a goal disallowed to go 1-0 up when the scorer was clearly onside, Southampton scored 60 seconds later, and it finished 2-1.

No-one can seriously argue that is better, a VAR system that operated efficiently (and it's not hard) would have rightly given Plymouth the goal. No way a single Plymouth fan is waving it away and saying fair enough.

Too much rides on football these days in a financial sense to have obviously wrong decisions potentially be the deciding factor in a season. Now our current version of VAR is poor in many ways and needs improving as a matter of urgency but that isn't a reason to go back to what we had before, which was probably even worse but for different reasons.

 

[Tony Towner]

I've seen Cashin play a lot for Derby. I just don't get it, a chubbier Stearman

 

[pavlosmacwolf]

Hat trick for fletcher for wrexham.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Top 4 seems sorted in the Championship, Leicester will walk it then it's what order Ipswich/Southampton/Leeds finish in.

Standard bunfight below that as Albion in 5th are only 7 points above Preston in 14th.

Bottom 4 look worse than everyone else although Blues do need to start winning at some point.

 

[Johnny75]

Top 4 seems sorted in the Championship, Leicester will walk it then it's what order Ipswich/Southampton/Leeds finish in.

Standard bunfight below that as Albion in 5th are only 7 points above Preston in 14th.

Bottom 4 look worse than everyone else although Blues do need to start winning at some point.

That's Wayne Rooney's Birmingham I'll have you know.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Terrible red card decision in Sheff Wed vs Hull, and we can't look at it

 

[Kenny]

Terrible red card decision in Sheff Wed vs Hull, and we can't look at it

Would VAR change it though...despite how bad it was?

Apologies if my can of worms have got everywhere...

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I think it would there. He gets the ball, there isn't excessive force, it's one foot. Seen them overturned before, eg Toti at Brentford when we won under Lage.

 

[Squeak]

Would VAR change it though...despite how bad it was?

Apologies if my can of worms have got everywhere...

IMO, no it wouldn't although I don't even think it was a yellow.
This is where refereeing standards have to be improved.

 

[Kenny]

I think it would there. He gets the ball, there isn't excessive force, it's one foot. Seen them overturned before, eg Toti at Brentford when we won under Lage.

VAR seems to have gone backwards since then.

 

[Squeak]

I think it would there. He gets the ball, there isn't excessive force, it's one foot. Seen them overturned before, eg Toti at Brentford when we won under Lage.

The replay they showed from more or less the ref's viewpoint showed him coming in and his foot rolling over the top of the ball upon impact. The ref would have seen that and believed it was reckless and excessive force. IMO, VAR would have backed that up even though other views show that no real offence was committed. This is where camera angles play havoc with decision making.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

The replay they showed from more or less the ref's viewpoint showed him coming in and his foot rolling over the top of the ball upon impact. The ref would have seen that and believed it was reckless and excessive force. IMO, VAR would have backed that up even though other views show that no real offence was committed. This is where camera angles play havoc with decision making.

I can see that happening for sure.

But that comes from desperately trying to defend the original decision, which has crept in somewhere and I don't know why. He made a a mistake in real time and that's fine - it's just obviously wrong so change it.

 

[The Bear]

It was a shite decision. Yellow card probably but not even close to a red no matter what angle the ref thinks he's seen it from.

 

[SSB]

That's Wayne Rooney's Birmingham I'll have you know.

Blues fans singing “get out of our club” to him at Leeds today.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Wednesday with two cracking goals. They’re putting up a real fight when they looked as good as relegated a couple of months ago.

 

[Squeak]

This ref has been utterly atrocious. Some appalling decisions given against Hull. 3-0 now...

 

[SSB]

This ref has been utterly atrocious. Some appalling decisions given against Hull. 3-0 now...

Proper Little Man Syndrome.

 

[The Bear]

How come Salah can play for Liverpool tonight? I read FIFA's date for international duty release was 1st Jan.