Keir Starmer at it again..

[Dire Wolf]

You only need to see how quickly he’s turned on transgender people to know how “principled” he is. The only thing that will keep the Tories out is if Badenoch is still their leader come the next election, which surely she won’t be

The Tories won't get in, Reform might though.

 

[Walshes Wolves]

This Labour government isn't even remotely socialism though is it.

it made no secret of it's close ties to globalisation, so I am not too sure why anyone expected any differently.
I personally think, they are better than the last lot, but that isn't really difficult.

 

[AndyWolves]

I feel the only logical party for me now is the greens, but that feels like a wasted vote and opens the door further for right wing parties to get elected

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

it made no secret of it's close ties to globalisation, so I am not too sure why anyone expected any differently.
I personally think, they are better than the last lot, but that isn't really difficult.

How is that I reply to what I said?

 

[Del Woppio]

The Tories won't get in, Reform might though.

This is closer to being a reality than a lot of people care to think about. I think areas like mine which are basically working class but for some reason have always returned Tories, are ripe for flipping to reform. As are red wall seats. We'll see razor thin victories all over the place.

Labour have made themselves so fucking unpopular, the left and the right hate them equally. I held my nose and voted for them in 2024 but I can't and won't do that again until he's gone.

 

[Walshes Wolves]

How is that I reply to what I said?

It means, you should never trust someone, who pretends that they are for the workers, low paid, disadvantaged, or pretends to be concerned with social issues, when they really represent investment banks and globalisation.

 

[Dire Wolf]

This is closer to being a reality than a lot of people care to think about. I think areas like mine which are basically working class but for some reason have always returned Tories, are ripe for flipping to reform. As are red wall seats. We'll see razor thin victories all over the place.

Labour have made themselves so fucking unpopular, the left and the right hate them equally. I held my nose and voted for them in 2024 but I can't and won't do that again until he's gone.

I don't want to be the person that says "I told you so" but back during the General Election thread when everyone was saying "Vote Labour and get the Tories out" I repeatedly made the point that a right-wing Labour government was leaving an open door for a shift to the far right and a gift horse for Reform. I take no satisfaction in saying "I told you so".

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

It means, you should never trust someone, who pretends that they are for the workers, low paid, disadvantaged, or pretends to be concerned with social issues, when they really represent investment banks and globalisation.

But I didn't, I have been cynical and critical of Starmer for years!?

 

[Tony Towner]

This is closer to being a reality than a lot of people care to think about. I think areas like mine which are basically working class but for some reason have always returned Tories, are ripe for flipping to reform. As are red wall seats. We'll see razor thin victories all over the place.

Labour have made themselves so fucking unpopular, the left and the right hate them equally. I held my nose and voted for them in 2024 but I can't and won't do that again until he's gone.

It'll be the Rories, whatever that looks like. Reform doesn't have the infrastructure to run a GE campaign from the front imo.

 

[Dire Wolf]

It'll be the Rories, whatever that looks like. Reform doesn't have the infrastructure to run a GE campaign from the front imo.

They definitely don't have the political nouse to run a government. But voters don't care. See the USA for evidence.

 

[Tony Towner]

It'll be something Farage fronted, only the deluded refuse to see his mass appeal. I just think he needs something more structured behind him to allow him to just do his dogwhistling without having to worry about the complexities like weeding out the less subtle racists, which he's never managed to do. Demonstrated again in this local election process. He can't even keep a Party of 5 together.

 

[Dire Wolf]

I feel the only logical party for me now is the greens, but that feels like a wasted vote and opens the door further for right wing parties to get elected

If enough traditional Labour voters switch to the Green Party it isn't wasted. Unlikely, I know, but that shift has to start somewhere. I won't vote Labour again, Green is my only choice.