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A lot of forum members will be happy about that. Not sure who will cover Wolves for The Athletic now, mind.
 
They've been letting him do different bits and bobs of late like reporting on the Wales qualifier and the Vardy Rooney thing. Some of his insight pieces were genuinely good, the performing chimp he had to be to get them less so
 
Jinky said:
A lot of forum members will be happy about that. Not sure who will cover Wolves for The Athletic now, mind.
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They could employ a proper writer.

Doesn't have to be a Wolves fan or anyone who has covered us previously. Arguably shouldn't be. Danny Taylor has done United for years, he's a Forest fan, he's probably the best in the business.
 
Tony Towner said:
He's an Albion fan, so is up against it
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A much better writer though.

Unfortunately it'll still be client journalism to an extent but at least every article won't have endless pop culture references and jokes which swing and miss. Only do that if you can pull it off, Tim, you can not.
 
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Any good?
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You're never going to know until someone actually makes a start, they might get no feeling for the club at all. Freelance Rosie wasn't a bad writer per se, but never ever got to grips with our history, how we played, where the fans sat on various issues, etc. She pretty much never wrote again after her "exciting freelance opportunities" caused her to coincidentally leave the E&S six months to the day from when she started :D Does press stuff for Cov Uni now.

What I would say is Madeley's style is far more attuned to what I would expect from subscription journalism. Spiers' style (such as it is) sat so uncomfortably with all the other clubs' writers. He was a massive outlier. Other than Carl Anka (who will always finish bottom of any pile) he is the weakest they have on their books by a long way, although he can produce decent enough output if you spoonfeed him access/info and explicitly tell him that he's not a Kwik Save Lee Mack. Never been any good at opinion stuff, and his historical knowledge for someone who's watched us for around 30 years is poor.
 
Yeah Madeley is ok. As Dan says it will be client journalism but at least this will be better written
 
Fair play to Tim Spiers, has pretty much lived the dream of every Wolves fan following us home and away and into Europe and got paid for the privilege.

Will always be remembered for the Kenny Jackett meltdown.
 
Stan Hullis said:
Fair play to Tim Spiers, has pretty much lived the dream of every Wolves fan following us home and away and into Europe and got paid for the privilege.

Will always be remembered for the Kenny Jackett meltdown.
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So strange. Not like people were too arsed about Jackett going either as it had so quickly unravelled under him too.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
You're never going to know until someone actually makes a start, they might get no feeling for the club at all. Freelance Rosie wasn't a bad writer per se, but never ever got to grips with our history, how we played, where the fans sat on various issues, etc. She pretty much never wrote again after her "exciting freelance opportunities" caused her to coincidentally leave the E&S six months to the day from when she started :D Does press stuff for Cov Uni now.

What I would say is Madeley's style is far more attuned to what I would expect from subscription journalism. Spiers' style (such as it is) sat so uncomfortably with all the other clubs' writers. He was a massive outlier. Other than Carl Anka (who will always finish bottom of any pile) he is the weakest they have on their books by a long way, although he can produce decent enough output if you spoonfeed him access/info and explicitly tell him that he's not a Kwik Save Lee Mack. Never been any good at opinion stuff, and his historical knowledge for someone who's watched us for around 30 years is poor.
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Spiers was always the same kind of writer, and never really evolved to fit The Athletic's house style.

A tabloid guy.

All his pieces use simple, plain language, with each individual sentence almost always split into its own "paragraph" to make it even easier to read.

It works fine for 500-word match reports in The Express & Star, but it's a world away from the tradition of American long-form magazine journalism that The Athletic emerged from.

The tone and structure of his longer, in-depth pieces never came together as a result - like trying to run a marathon in flip-flops.

He also never managed to get out of the client journalism trap, and while that's true of most sports journalists it also never particularly felt like he was much of an expert on football as a sport, so his work always felt shallow in both tone and content.
 
I quite like that about him though, I hate when a site like SI has an article I want to read, and the first 700 words are trying to over elaborate to paint a picture of the field some NFL player, played high school football on.
 
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