Ex-Wolf Watch

[Wolf of Ashford]

Maybe him saying he didn't "play" in those 21 games was a rare moment of self-awareness from our Jamie

 

[YoungWolf]

It’s amazing how bad players memories are (I’m sure sometimes very intentionally..)

Tbf to him in the podcast, he mostly admits (amongst plenty of bullshit) that he didn’t play well for us and that he was a knobhead.

He wasn’t bright enough to compensate for the injury issues he had. No way nowadays a PL club buys him with the back injury and surgery he’d had though.

 

[Del Woppio]

I was so fucking excited that Summer though.

Hennessy
Foley - Johnson - Berra - Ward
Kites - Henry - JOH - Jarvis
Doyle - Fletcher

just looked so good and well balanced on paper

 

[sycophantia]

I was so fucking excited that Summer though.

Hennessy
Foley - Johnson - Berra - Ward
Kites - Henry - JOH - Jarvis
Doyle - Fletcher

just looked so good and well balanced on paper

Yeah I really thought we'd filled in the missing gaps from the previous season and looked forward to a comfy mid table finish!
I really know fuck all about football.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

I was so fucking excited that Summer though.

Hennessy
Foley - Johnson - Berra - Ward
Kites - Henry - JOH - Jarvis
Doyle - Fletcher

just looked so good and well balanced on paper

The opposite of this season in many ways.

 

[Del Woppio]

Yeah I really thought we'd filled in the missing gaps from the previous season and looked forward to a comfy mid table finish!
I really know fuck all about football.

Samesies

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Yeah I really thought we'd filled in the missing gaps from the previous season and looked forward to a comfy mid table finish!
I really know fuck all about football.

Well it could and should have done.

The issue is always the non tangibles to us fans. We didn't appreciate how much impact taking the captaincy off Henry and giving it Johnson would have, Johnson's face didn't fit AND his attitude wasn't great so it lead to every established player being unsettled to some degree, especially when the results started to turn after those first 3 games.

Then also the grenade of JOH being a bit of a prick. (Which he hadn't displayed whilst on loan)

On paper it was a good side, and would have probably performed better had Mick not given RJ the captaincy.

In some, smaller ways you see it now, calls for Bueno to start over Dawson, they're fair in some respect with how it looks on paper and form.

But putting in a player that probably doesn't communicate well (due to language) over a very experienced leader type who definitely communicates well would have more of an impact than we can appreciate.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

That first choice XI is full of glaring weaknesses.

Foley never convinced at RB in the Premier League for various reasons and the alternative was a moron who played like a drunk horse.

Johnson and Berra 100% commits you to a low block, nothing else, even if they're playing well.

Ward was a sticking plaster option three years beforehand in the Championship that we never upgraded.

Kightly wasn't even fit until after Christmas.

Doyle had fallen off a cliff for good and was by now chasing corner flags rather than being a serious footballer.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

It had kept us up the season before though, and we added "quality" to it. Problem was the mentality of the quality.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

We *just* stayed up and tended to look decent or awful, nothing in between.

The likes of Foley/Zubar/Ward/Henry/Hunt needed upgrading as a matter of urgency (some of them [not Zubar or Hunt] would have been ok as squad players, but they were playing all the time) and we didn't do it.

Doyle's collapse in quality is one I can't pin on the club or manager, just an unreal drop in standard in such a short period.

 

[Alan]

The vibes from staying up that day were fucking immaculate tbf. Easy to see how folks got swept up in it. Like I did!

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Got to say, being there wasn't much fun...

Mancienne getting ragdolled by 55 year old Jason Roberts and 0-3 down at HT.

 

[Alan]

Got to say, being there wasn't much fun...

Mancienne getting ragdolled by 55 year old Jason Roberts and 0-3 down at HT.

Boo, with your logic and accurate recounting of how things happened.

I remember the feeling in Molineux when Hunt scored practically explode out of my TV. Really was an inexplicably magic moment. (Inexplicable for me, not y’all).

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

God that annoyed me with our fans and Hunt.

"You can't be too harsh on him, he scored the goal that kept us up".

Aye and if we'd had a proper footballer there all season rather than someone perpetually controlling the ball 10 yards and offering the skill levels of Mark Rankine, we might not have been in that position.

He was bloody awful.

 

[Alan]

You always know how to see the bright side…

 

[YoungWolf]

We *just* stayed up and tended to look decent or awful, nothing in between.

The likes of Foley/Zubar/Ward/Henry/Hunt needed upgrading as a matter of urgency (some of them [not Zubar or Hunt] would have been ok as squad players, but they were playing all the time) and we didn't do it.

Doyle's collapse in quality is one I can't pin on the club or manager, just an unreal drop in standard in such a short period.

We were strange that year, had some spells where it felt like we had cracked it with the 4231, largely playing some decent football too. Then would quickly fall apart and we’d have to recover it by being quite organised and direct in a 442.

Ultimately, we didn’t have a very good squad nor a premier league coaching team. Even 10-15 years ago feels like such a different era though!

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Nothing sums up 2010/11 like the juxtaposition of Wigan at home on Boxing Day (1/10 for the lot of them would be generous) and then deservedly winning at Anfield three days later.

 

[Tony Towner]

We were complacent QPR, Swansea and Norwich were the worst 3 teams to ever be promoted into the PL, until they weren't. To add to Deutsch's list of issues Henry had already entered his Rambo stage by then too and was becoming a liability

 

[North Shropshire Lad]

God that annoyed me with our fans and Hunt.

"You can't be too harsh on him, he scored the goal that kept us up".

Aye and if we'd had a proper footballer there all season rather than someone perpetually controlling the ball 10 yards and offering the skill levels of Mark Rankine, we might not have been in that position.

He was bloody awful.

Unfair

 

[Sniffer]

We were complacent QPR, Swansea and Norwich were the worst 3 teams to ever be promoted into the PL, until they weren't. To add to Deutsch's list of issues Henry had already entered his Rambo stage by then too and was becoming a liability

Didn't QPR spend billions with floppy chops at the helm but still got relegated?

Edit - I'm wrong again. Survived by a point but went down the following season.