Climate Change Debate

[Del Woppio]

Protest creates change, it always has and always will.

If we end up with an authoritarian Farage government, it's not because of JSO or XR, or any other group, it's because the press and the elite classes are doing what they always do - stomping on the ordinary people, redirecting them away from the reasons for their shit lives, and creating the very division and hatred that you think is driven by peaceful protest. Not protesting because it'll upset the rule makers misses the point entirely - that's the stated aim and the only way major change has ever been achieved

 

[EpsomWolf]

A lot of truths in there but think you’re underestimating the negative effects of the actions already argued to death.

That’s fair enough, not going to change any minds at this stage so no point in going round in circles any more.

I’ll take a reasonable place to bail out.

 

[visage]

The idea that progressive causes need to temper their activism, and that they'll get better results by fading into the background and trying not to upset anyone, seems to be ignorant of a) the specific power relationships in UK politics and b) the history and mechanisms behind all progressive change in this country.

 

[Tredman]

But if you are happy with the status quo then the suggestions make perfect sense.

 

[visage]

If we ask nicely then entrenched power will totally act against it's own self interest.