Keir Starmer at it again..

[Elephant Pyjamas]

But the report and Labour itself say it wasnt a case of working against Saint Jez, there were factions with competing strategies, both trying to get a Labour victory

Labour's take on it is again, an opinion isn't it.

So you've read examples like this below, but still conclude it's a Corbyn fanboy conspiracy?

"An election night chat log shows that 45 minutes after the exit poll revealed that Labour had overturned the Conservative majority, one senior official said the result was the “opposite to what I had been working towards for the last couple of years”, describing themselves and their allies as “silent and grey-faced” and in need of counselling.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Quite how anyone could stay in the party and not actively campaign against an antisemitic regime is beyond understanding.

To be honest you lost all credibility the other day with your ridiculous attack regarding Milliband.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Was that written by Saint Jeremy himself?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

You're talking to people on this thread who ignore antisemitic tropes and think any claims of it are fakes and smears (oh hello, Equality Act)

I take each and every example of racism, sexism etc on its own merits.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Was that written by Saint Jeremy himself?

Again, you are doing exactly what you claim those on the left do.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Oh do I really? That’s amusing. Especially as I voted Saint Jeremy and wanted him to win. I doubt you want Starmer to win at all.

 

[Tredman]

Loving Rayner digging into Johnson calling him out as a coward.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

It didn't say he did. The exit poll said that, you're so keen to be right you're not even reading things properly.


And those senior officials/officials were quite upset about the possibility of Corbyn winning as above. That's the point in what I'm saying, the right in the Labour party didn't want Corbyn to win, that's a fact.

Now I do want the Tories out, I voted for Starmer as leader and I will do it in the GE, that doesn't mean I can't criticise the way he his running the party in much the same way as many of you rightly criticised Corbyn when he was running it.

 

[prawnking]

I take each and every example of racism, sexism etc on its own merits.

I hope you're quicker at coming to your conclusions than your comrade Templeton... I fear I may expire before I discover if he thinks Israel is like Nazi Germany or not...

 

[Templeton Peck]

I hope you're quicker at coming to your conclusions than your comrade Templeton... I fear I may expire before I discover if he thinks Israel is like Nazi Germany or not...

Would it be fine for Corbyn to deselect someone for once sharing a platform with Alastair Campbell? Nobody on this thread has answered that.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Well thank you for clearing up why I questioned your sanity in claiming Corbyn overturned a majority when he didn’t.

I also would happily aver that a much larger majority of the Labour right would have been delighted with a Labour government with Corbyn at the head than the Labour left would have been about a Labour government with Starmer at the head.

Reasons? Well they kept reasonably quiet and hoped he would deliver whereas the left seem to be doing everything in their power to undermine Starmer for what I can only assume are reasons of purity.

How about working together to Lance the boil of Conservative poison and then collaborate on policy when in power? Just a thought?

The Labour Right 'kept reasonably quiet'. That's quite a generous take. We had:

the mass cabinet resignation
Owen Smith
Forde report 'an abnormal intensity of factional opposition to the party leader” had “inhibited the proper functioning of the Labour Party bureaucracy'
Jess 'I'd stab him in the back and front' Philips
Lisa 'we'll break him as a man' Nandy
Peter Mandelson - 'I work to undermine Corbyn every single day'

 

[Johnny75]

Would it be fine for Corbyn to deselect someone for once sharing a platform with Alastair Campbell? Nobody on this thread has answered that.

Whataboutery at its finest.

Just answer the fucking question.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

The Labour Right 'kept reasonably quiet'. That's quite a generous take. We had:

the mass cabinet resignation
Owen Smith
Forde report 'an abnormal intensity of factional opposition to the party leader” had “inhibited the proper functioning of the Labour Party bureaucracy'
Jess 'I'd stab him in the back and front' Philips
Lisa 'we'll break him as a man' Nandy
Peter Mandelson - 'I work to undermine Corbyn every single day'

Supported him in the election though

 

[Templeton Peck]

Whataboutery at its finest.

Just answer the fucking question.

Fucking hell Paxman calm down.

 

[Johnny75]

Fucking hell Paxman calm down.

Any chance you could answer the question or should we just all assume you're a holocaust denier and anti-Semite?

 

[Templeton Peck]

Supported him in the election though

Unfortunately the Left did keep 'reasonably quiet' when Starmer took over. Some (like me) even voted for him cos he lied to win our votes. Our reward was getting purged.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Any chance you could answer the question or should we just all assume you're a holocaust denier and anti-Semite?

You can assume what you like.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Unfortunately the Left did keep 'reasonably quiet' when Starmer took over. Some (like me) even voted for him cos he lied to win our votes. Our reward was getting purged.

Your reward will be government in 18 months.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Does anyone in any political party ever get exactly what they want, 100%, from any given leader at any time? I'd probably go into the Blairite box if you wanted to label me but by no stretch did I agree with everything he said and did. Pad was a Thatcherite, bet he wasn't mad keen on the Poll Tax.

Nothing Starmer has done has been as egregious as Corbyn essentially waving Brexit through.

 

[prawnking]

You can assume what you like.

Shocking evasion here. Spoken like a true acolyte of cranks like Galloway, Corbyn and Livingstone. All out of the party now, thankfully

Why can't you just say it?