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It won't last - It'll still be shit at the end of the day if they carry on using the same muppets.
Did we ever get an explanation or a mic'd up from the Bournemouth game?
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Utter bollocks from Simon Stone. You don't change which clubs you support because of VAR and move to a football league club because they don't have it.
However, fans cannot just be dismissed. They pay money to get into grounds - and the cost of tickets has been an issue at many clubs this summer - if they don't like the entertainment on offer, they can go elsewhere. (There are plenty of clubs who play in leagues in England that operate without VAR who would love a new set of supporters).
The Premier League clubs will not want to risk that.
However, fans cannot just be dismissed. They pay money to get into grounds - and the cost of tickets has been an issue at many clubs this summer - if they don't like the entertainment on offer, they can go elsewhere. (There are plenty of clubs who play in leagues in England that operate without VAR who would love a new set of supporters).
The Premier League clubs will not want to risk that.
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That first point.
"Maintaining a high threshold for VAR intervention..."
Fuck off mate.
"Maintaining a high threshold for VAR intervention..."
Fuck off mate.
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Tbh I'm glad it got smashed and left Shi out in the cold. If it were really about VAR he would have tried to build a coalition with other teams and once he recognised there wasn't a majority out there, worked with them to table a proposal which would bring improvement. It was never about that it was just a cynical piece of populism instigated a week before he was due to roll out his immoral price increases.
Fuck him.
Fuck him.
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Thiago has spoken out how VAR has ruined the game - his 1994 world cup winning dad would surely agree!
"Coaches can communicate with us better, players can communicate with each other more," the 30-year-old said, as quoted by the Guardian .
"You lose competitiveness but develop other aspects. Extra substitutions mean teams that defend, defend to the 90th minute; teams that press you, press you to the end."
"I have that ‘hate modern football’ mentality; I’m more classic in attitude. And then there’s VAR, which I’ve always opposed. It removes the essence, the picaresque.
"We make mistakes when we play, referees have to make mistakes too. Lots of mythical moments wouldn’t exist [with VAR]. And when you score, even a brilliant goal from the halfway line, you’re waiting. Thinking: ‘I hope there isn’t a foul in the build-up, I hope there’s no offside, I hope'."
Thiago feels football is losing its "magic" and "fantasy" as the game is becoming more physically intense and faster.
"It’s taken up a different pace, rhythm: more accelerated, more physical," he said.
"The figure of the No. 10 has almost disappeared. We see less magic, less fantasy. Footballers do more but faster. There’s no need to dribble because you run.
"Players are more developed in every sense. You lose that player who’s different, who ‘breathes’; the playmaker who was slower even if he had sublime technique doesn’t get the opportunity to turn.
"Those of us who are not so fast with our legs have to be faster in our heads. It’s like anything in life: adaptation. Things keep moving. Football changes constantly, expressed differently."
"Coaches can communicate with us better, players can communicate with each other more," the 30-year-old said, as quoted by the Guardian .
"You lose competitiveness but develop other aspects. Extra substitutions mean teams that defend, defend to the 90th minute; teams that press you, press you to the end."
"I have that ‘hate modern football’ mentality; I’m more classic in attitude. And then there’s VAR, which I’ve always opposed. It removes the essence, the picaresque.
"We make mistakes when we play, referees have to make mistakes too. Lots of mythical moments wouldn’t exist [with VAR]. And when you score, even a brilliant goal from the halfway line, you’re waiting. Thinking: ‘I hope there isn’t a foul in the build-up, I hope there’s no offside, I hope'."
Thiago feels football is losing its "magic" and "fantasy" as the game is becoming more physically intense and faster.
"It’s taken up a different pace, rhythm: more accelerated, more physical," he said.
"The figure of the No. 10 has almost disappeared. We see less magic, less fantasy. Footballers do more but faster. There’s no need to dribble because you run.
"Players are more developed in every sense. You lose that player who’s different, who ‘breathes’; the playmaker who was slower even if he had sublime technique doesn’t get the opportunity to turn.
"Those of us who are not so fast with our legs have to be faster in our heads. It’s like anything in life: adaptation. Things keep moving. Football changes constantly, expressed differently."
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Bielsa said something similar after Uruguay beat Brazil
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Match ABANDONED due to anti-VAR protests.
Mon then Norway.
Mon then Norway.
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Given that the decision was made to disallow the man city goal on the pitch (eventually) and there is supposedly now a high bar for intervention, wolves were hard done by again yesterday.
It's one of those where if it's given or not given on the pitch you can accept it. But when it goes to VAR it enrages people.
Listened to some analysis and whether or not it's a goal seems to be a grey area. Football is full of those. It's why VAR isn't compatible with the sport.
The amount of works against wolves is extraordinary
It's one of those where if it's given or not given on the pitch you can accept it. But when it goes to VAR it enrages people.
Listened to some analysis and whether or not it's a goal seems to be a grey area. Football is full of those. It's why VAR isn't compatible with the sport.
The amount of works against wolves is extraordinary
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Everyone hates us and we don't care
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but if if it just bad luck it's been going on a long time now. Also how many times has it been Attwell either on the field or in the booth?
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The decisions haven't necessarily always been incorrect, but they've so often been in direct contradiction of previous statements or they've broken the mould compared to the norm.
Yesterday being an obvious example.
How often does a ref going to the screen not reverse the decision.
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He did reverse the decision, the linesman gave offside, he agreed with the VAR. It just wasn't clear that happened on the tv. It's why I was confused that he did the tv screen hand gesture yet the City players were celebrating
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Same here. As soon as he made the square gesture I thought it had been disallowed.
