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Sa me principle for me using your criteria of top 8 = Top 8 from the season finshing for CARABAO cup round 2 Top 8 on 1st weekend in December (the time of the third round draw.) All ties as follows , home side first, one game no replay extra time FA cup only , both go to penalties. 8 v1 7 v...

Final post on this as the thread has been hijacked enough and I apologise for that. My earlier post was to suggest seeding the top 6 or 8 in both cups to encourage greater competition and give some of the other teams something to aim for other than 7th place. I maintain its nonsense to have a...

In both these cases just because its happening , does not make it right and does not make me a man shouting at clouds.

Really? You are that happy with this rigged set up? You surprise me. I thought you were more in touch with the game than that. Hey Ho , I will stop yelling at clouds on here then.

Dont take this the wrong way but thats nonsense and , as I am getting a bit tired of this re-writing of football history I have taken the trouble to prove why. Here is some criteria and I think we can agree. I have stuck to the time period from when I first started watching football until the...

But that’s not the argument. I say the 70s and 80s there was a chance for 10 or more teams to win silverware at the start of a season. Now it’s 6 and soon to become 7 based on their ability to buy the best talent in the world and pay the best wages. It’s money that changed it . You barely have...

Now thats just Hyperbole TT is correct that there are plenty of other raesons for fans staying away. Thatchers Britain was a tough place to live and work in> Heres some world class goals from that decade just to remind those that it wasnt all bad and football did exist before 1991. Hell England...

In the last 20 years only Middlesbrough v Bolton and Swansea v Bradford have been carabao cup finals that did not have a big six finalist. In the 20 years before there were 6 finals of the same competition that did not have a big six finalist. The FA cup is just as bad with Portsmouth V Cardiff...

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Selectively removing two days cups in 81 and 82 a cup final in 87 Spurs league finishes in the 80s included 4 4 10 3 13 3 8 . So they were successful. Comparable to man United in terms of their success since Fergie if not better .

Didn’t you have fun giving it large when we beat forest? I was 15 then and playing men’s football and I certainly used my bragging rights at the time! Now because the same teams win everything the new fans choose them over others and it makes it a league if also rans for me . I just don’t...

You change wives but not your football team Three cups including the division 2 championship two league cup wins and one uefa final in 8 years! That’s better than we have done in the last 8 years in what is being heralded as the best times of our lives. And through success we will get more...

That’s my point so straight over your head with that one then. It’s successful teams that get new supporters . I know Man City supporting kids in Cambridge. Unheard of when growing up . Liverpool Man U Leeds Chelsea Arsenal Spurs Ipswich Norwich Forest Wolves all picked up fans in and around my...

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Meanwhile all the youngsters are drawn to a big six team as they are seen to be winners. I started supporting Wolves as a 9 year old just getting into football in73/74 and we won the league cup sealing what turned into a life long following. Forest Leeds Villa Wolves Ipswich Southampton Norwich...

A very warm welcome. Yes a membership seems to be the way to get tickets which didn’t look likely last summer but it’s not been too hard this season

I think you’re right with that , although how winning the cup equates to finishing 7th is a bit of a mystery to me. I am in the camp that if you asked me before a ball was kicked how you wanted to qualify for Europe, win a cup or finish 7th it’s the former all the time assuming we also stay up

Very true. Until the formats acknowledge that it’s rigged in favour of the big teams then it cannot change. Knock a few of the seeds out early in cups has the good effect of a high class match up early in the competition and the non big teams think they are in with a shout in a cup. That would...

Is it just me or is English football in the premier league all a bit predictable. The big six were set up to succeed and basically, because of money have the ability to virtually buy trophies. They pay the best and they get the best. Why is it a surprise that they are winning everything? I...

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