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Agreed. Players going down clutching their face and trying to con the ref really does spoil everything. I like watching ratty get sent off though so every cloud. :)

I'm increasingly of this mindset given the fitting of square pegs in round holes that is going on. Yes, I see some positives, but then the failure to deal with the obvious negatives, really doesn't point to improvement.

I'm probably one who is more positive than most about our season so far but I find it increasingly difficult to defend a coach who plays a bloke like Bellegarde on the left when he is so obviously right footed. And that brings me to another point, who the hell is scouting players like this and...

Game management by England was pathetic. The changing of the footwear particularly embarrassing.

England in the midst of throwing it away again... 202-2 to 238-6. 309 all out.... poor after that start. A but for some decent hitting by Rashid at the end, wouldn't have made 300.

If he uses it as motivation for next weekend, fine by me. At least he tries to lead by example.

We'd both lose... the Wolves way. :)

Wanna take this outside? ;)

Disagree. I don't think the players are going in with that mentality. I do think they are being set up wrong and that the wrong players are playing most of the time. EG. Bellegarde on the left mystifies me. I do agree with everyone mentioning our defence as the problem and we seem to have...

Sure, we can panic because after 6 games we are bottom. I'm not concerned at this stage. Each to their own.

And, there are still other teams who haven't won this season.

My evidence is simply that we put in a decent first half on the eye test, we got it back to 1-1 and then a moment of stupidity cost us the game. Had we used the ball better in the closing moments, who knows. I honestly don't think the performance was dreadful and when we equalised, I certainly...

Just a different mindset to you. That's all. I just don't think it's all doom and gloom. Sure, there have been some very strange things going on from a football point of view. I'm hopeful of an improvement over the next 6 games.

That's patently not true. We scored for one. And Alisson did have other saves to make. We definitely created some opportunities but they defended them well with their defenders.

We did pass sideways and backwards a lot but we did create some opportunities and we did play some passes that took the opposition out of the game partic. in the first half. I can agree there were some individual mistakes that were dreadful. However, you summed up the whole game as dreadful...

Perhaps you'd like to contribute to the discussion instead of name calling? If not, fuck off.

Are you saying we were dreadful because we lost? Seems to me that you are. We were actually very good at points in the first half and you could certainly make the argument we were the better team then. Further, we weren't so dreadful that we managed to get back on terms, only for a moment of...

I've also seen similar challenges to the one Semedo made not given and I rather doubt we would have got it if it was against us. But this is Liverpool and there is a bias. No question.

Nothing either you or I can do about it. Same as why the fuck Bellegarde, Doc, Hwang etc get a look in. This is what we have and we have a coach who believes in them. For now. But reality has to dawn. In our next 6 games we have Man City as the only team we can't really get something out of and...

Haven't you got a game of eggball to watch?