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Welcome to Wolves Vitor Pereira

Tredman said:
He’s not a nice guy, he’s a shit manager who blamed the players for his own deficiencies.
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One of those where you review it in retrospect and it's not a good look.

Lage was a fucking arsehole, that was obvious. Dave Jones was a lazy prick who wanted to play golf more than develop players, that was obvious. McGhee's mouth wrote cheques that his actual ability couldn't cash, that was obvious.

With Gary O'Neil it was a bit more subtle but there was a huge trend when you look back of him patting himself on the back when it went well and just blaming the players when it didn't. He couldn't use André, he didn't even try to use Kalajdzic.

He essentially told our first choice keeper to do one then had to hurredly backtrack on that one.

These aren't good traits.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
He essentially told our first choice keeper to do one then had to hurredly backtrack on that one.
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On this kind of decision I think you have to go all in. Not suggesting Johnstone was any good, he wasn't, but we saw under Jackett when he flip flopped with Martinez and Ikeme you just end up with a keeper who is a bag of nerves. That's what we had until Vitor came in and said Sa is the man.
 
Yeah, I genuinely can't think of any club where swapping keepers every week out of choice works out.

If GON had lost faith in Sa then he had to go with it.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
One of those where you review it in retrospect and it's not a good look.

Lage was a fucking arsehole, that was obvious. Dave Jones was a lazy prick who wanted to play golf more than develop players, that was obvious. McGhee's mouth wrote cheques that his actual ability couldn't cash, that was obvious.

With Gary O'Neil it was a bit more subtle but there was a huge trend when you look back of him patting himself on the back when it went well and just blaming the players when it didn't. He couldn't use André, he didn't even try to use Kalajdzic.

He essentially told our first choice keeper to do one then had to hurredly backtrack on that one.

These aren't good traits.
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I think many were patient and gave him the benefit of doubt because he mismanaged the players so badly they started to believe our squad was so poor a relegation battle was inevitable. From Coventry onwards his complete inability to organise a defence was evident. From Brentford away it was clear he hadn’t a clue full stop to anyone taking an objective look.
 
YoungWolf said:
Brentford away was absolutely the one. I mean I already couldn’t stand him but I don’t think he had many if any supporters after that one.

(Apart from wolftone)
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Brentford was my final tipping point but keeping him after Everton (easily in the five worst I have ever seen, and I've been watching us for 37 years) is next level insane
 
Villa away was mine, losing PL games back to back in exactly the same fashion showed he was out of his depth
 
Numerous factors kept Gaz Lage in his job to long:
Jeff and Matty giving him a 4 year deal in July, just wait 2 months then see how it’s going especially considering the end of season was terrible.
Local and national media: if say VP had started the season like Gaz did they’d have hounded him out.
Every excuse under sun was used to keep him in place “he’s learning his trade” “he speaks well” “he did well last season”
Yep ignore results and sheer tactical incompetence and the fact he’d lost control of the dressing and promoted a toxic character to be captain
Fans: it would’ve been an ideal time for the fans to rediscover their inpatient side like they had 15 years ago.
Never known 2 managers in Lage and O’Neil been given so much space to be shit without the fans backlash.
 
I've never seen such a complete lack of discipline from a Wolves team as happened in O'Neil's final couple of months. It was chaos on every level.

I prefer him to Lage, Zenga and Saunders but I don't know beyond that.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
I've never seen such a complete lack of discipline from a Wolves team as happened in O'Neil's final couple of months. It was chaos on every level.
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GO allowed the breakdown to start but Jeff/Hobbs ensured it went to being out of control when they made GO the caretaker manager.

I hope Vitor gets OTT praise at the end of the season. He had to rebuild everything off the pitch and took no shit in doing so. Our captain was a twat, and he soon sorted his shit out.
 
That's a great point (write the date down lad, it's entry 3 in the last 20 years).

Huge huge call to tell Mario to do one. His head had gone but those there before Vitor could not deal with it at all.

I think the Dawson one was just football related, not him being a dick. But again a big decision.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
I've never seen such a complete lack of discipline from a Wolves team as happened in O'Neil's final couple of months. It was chaos on every level.

I prefer him to Lage, Zenga and Saunders but I don't know beyond that.
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I'm not even sure he was better than Zenga.

Yes, that bad.
GON or Hoddle?
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
I think the Dawson one was just football related, not him being a dick. But again a big decision.
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The Dawson one was odd at the time...but it clear that Vitor didn't see him as the dominant centre back he wanted and boy, did we recruit the right player. That alone was a major turning point let alone bombing Lemina out, seeing through the shite that is Hwang, playing only those who have the desire to wear the shirt and the overall tactical plan. Embracing the fans in such a humble way was a masterclass in getting everyone on board.
 
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